put a clear cup or otherclear container over the clone so it acts as a humidity dome..should perk up for you. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. IMNSHO it would be best to bury those rock cubes a bit deeper, they give up their moisture way too easily, I like them just under the soil. 2 days after transplant the two smaller ones are starting to wilt, one of them very badly. The obedient must be slaves. So thsts what I started and to this date. Step 4: analyse your growing medium. But sometimes cubes is what I have on hand so I use them. You cant grab just any old soil or dirt from the garden and hope it will be good enough, because this is a developing seedling that needs some extra love and care, and that is why, we highly recommend waiting until you have nutrient-dense soil, lights, and everything else you might need for it to flourish before you start. Luckily, there are a few things that you can watch and check for that will let you know if your little cannabis clones are ready for the big move, and we want to help you out, by laying them out in a simple checklist, that every grower, both new and experienced should always keep in mind. The top tray of exact same size but its shallow and it has a grate like surface. Once hitting top of dome, transplant to happy frog in 1 gal for 3-4 weeks, then 5 gal and flower time. #2. Always make sure the rootball stays moist when transplanting For this transplant shock preventer, when moving the plant make sure that the rootball stays moist in-between locations. Back on in time and they perk right up. j. if mine are wilting over, i prop them up on a side or with a bamboo stick mist the dome heavily and make sure the cubes arent soaked. Most plants will droop from shock when transplanted. Clones always do the looping at some point but the clones will bounce back.Get hold of a propagator and put the clones in for about the first week i keep the lid on and mist the clones and the inside of the lid with the vents closed.Sometimes the clones look like there a goner but that is why i like to do them in rockwool so i can see the My first time grow is having problem help please! All times are GMT-5. JavaScript is disabled. You can clone 7 weeks into flower and can clone in straight water with no hormone and right in soil I cloned right in soil. Keep roots moist Keep the soil well-watered, but make sure that the plant has good drainage and is not in standing water. These two fine strains have been doing great up till about now :( I did the final transplant into their last pit's, and they look like they hate it and are dying. Try it, you'll be surprised. hope this helps. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. That's when I remove the dome for 10 - 15 minutes, 2-3 times a day. Seven or more days for established roots. during the light cycle with the humidifier it stays 50-55%. Once plumeria transplanting is complete, the plant will need to be well watered to settle the soil. Righteous. what are your average times from cut to root? in high humidity a wilting cutting will perk up within hours and not wilt. Nice lefty, some of those clones are looking real good. The thing is that if you transplant them just a tad too quickly, then you could risk causing irreversible damage or killing them outright, and it's a costly mistake that no one wants to experience. Some growers, and in particular, those who are new to the art, tend to rush the experience, but this can be very costly in the long run when your cannabis clones begin to fail, so it is important to make sure that you have all of the tools youll need on hand long before you consider transplanting clones. Thanks for the help guys , iv taken the rockwools out of the soil , to try and stop the moisture being absorbed. it just needed some water and light. I don't know enough about clonex to say wether that would help or not, I think they just need a chance to get established in the soil, you just need to have the soil throughly moistened so it's not pulling the water out of the cube. Sign up to get all the latest gardening tips! Purpletrain. My tent is 3' x 2' x 5'- is 4 clones too much? It may not display this or other websites correctly. i just misted them with warm water. Why no pics of the OGxSD?! Transplant to the dirt and mist the dome/pitcher and put it over the clone for the first two days. You must log in or register to reply here. Is there a formation of roots and if so are they wet?have they been under that light for a while? You say they rooted the "rock walls"? I agree it's a water issue, most likely too much water, not enough O2. Harvest Recap! I have given them all about a cup of water a day, maybe a little less. when you clone using rooting plugs or rockwool under a dome you cant just take them out and transplant them after they root take the dome off if it wilts spray down and re-cover dome when it looks good do it again until such time as the plant can stay looking good and healthy with the dome off and not wilting do you think they will perk up? Hope I cleared up any confusion. Bring as much of the roots as possible Along the same lines as the tip above for plant preparation, preventing shock means when digging up the plant, make sure as much of the root as possible is brought up with the plant. How much would i put in per litre? There are extraordinary circumstances in which it may be best to transplant your cannabis clones early, and one good example of that is if you see mold begin to form on the surface of the soil, or pest start to nest around the stem. 1 or 2 or is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil ? Some totally wilt over limp and others show signs of low humidity stress (the leaves curl up to a crisp on day 2-3 after transplant) The clones are rooted in rockwool cubes and hardened off gradually from day 5 -10, removing the dome completely for a day or 2. clones are always placed in 70/30 coco mix with Mycos, Azos and Root by RXgreen Technologies. It can also be used as a transplant shock preventer if applied at the time of transplanting. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. humidity may be a reason why the leaves are wilting, like GFcollective said misting your humidity dome and waiting a bit should help with the welting of leaves. Iv got some clonex , would this help the roots do you think? Home Made Clearex for Pennies! Ill update in a few days to let you know if it did the trick, Im going to try the clear cup trick for the next 24hrs or so and see if that helps too. Awesome thanks a lot lefty. Generally, cannabis clones are temporarily placed into small pots that allow for hundreds if not thousands to be lined up in a very small space while they get themselves established, but most growers cant wait to switch their new babies over to vessels that are more suitable for a long term stay. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. Water the soil before transplanting so soil doesn't move around once the clone is in its new home. The soil itself had a decent moistness to it to begin with, but maybe I just need to add more water? I totally agree with Steve. Thanks! Clones Wilting When Removed From Aerocloner Vonkins May 4, 2017 None 1 2 Next Vonkins May 4, 2017 #1 My clones will have great roots, then I will remove them from my aerocloner and put them in premoisten soil. I have poked my fingers into the soil of a few of them and although it's dry for at least an inch or two, there is moist soil towards the middle and bottom of each container. It came out between 7 and 8 for all the plants. The leaves may recover or may not. This IS one of them, the Banana. I have not had a seed not germinate. Then I put them out under lights in open air. THats your best one and has the least issuesthe OGxSD has nothing more then a deficiency get that one going!! The roots are absolutely imperative for your marijuana plant to absorb water and nutrients from the soil, and if theyre disturbed before theyre ready, that one simple decision could be enough to stunt or kill it, and the best way to avoid that, is by waiting at least 7 days before making the big move. I have given them all about a cup of water a day, maybe a little less. I will mostly be going cup in cup from now on after learning and using that method. They were in rockwool when I got them, rooted, and I immediately transplanted them into a basic organic potting soil. Hope this answers the question Baja. However, in the majority of situations, you should do everything within your power to ensure that it rests long enough to recover from the traumatic process, so try your best to be patient and wait unless danger is imminent. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I don't know how far a MH/HPS should be hxvoc Resistance Commander The fine roots that absorb the bulk of the water . mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. i've noticed that if i run the humidifier thru the dark cycle it can reach 80-90% humidity, or if i leave it off it stays around 40-50, which is better? Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! If the small leaves are hanging in a downward direction, and have yet to perk back up, then chances are pretty good that its still way too early for transplanting. I used to buy field grown tomato transplant out of Georgia. Jun 18, 2016. Now I stop calling cuttings "cuttings", once they root. Ok great will the leaves ever drop as much as mine and ever recover? But using this method I can usually have them happy in the open air after two weeks and once they've proven they like it .. that's when I transplant. 1. You would Cut the leaves at the ends to Help , if they are wilted? PH on clones is higher then plants need to in the 6.8 ranger.also you need to gel your cutting as soon as you make them to stop Embolism or air thats stops the clone from getting any nutes.temp need to be 75 to 78.light need to be around the 150 to 200 watt floro range.you need a good cloning solution oliva or your choice and keep them wet 24/7 lights on 24/7.clones can be tricky but once you are on your game its not a problem.I don't cut my leaves and i don't mist my clones.But thats me i think outside the box.If they tell me thats how its done ill look for a better way.lucky its been working so far lol. Some totally wilt over limp and others show signs of low humidity stress (the leaves curl up to a crisp on day 2-3 after transplant) The clones are rooted in rockwool cubes and hardened off gradually from day 5 -10, removing the dome completely for a day or 2. Could my issues be related to low humidity or is there something else going on? #10. Sign up for our newsletter. but as we all know, it can be a one of a million things. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. After 30 days, fertilize with 10-50-10 ratio fertilizer. I watered them, they both came back up, then this one stopped and starting wilting again. A wireless transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process. I have had that happen with my clones and after about 5 hours under the dome they looked fine. Sounds like a nice fit for short indicas, yup. Do not water again until soil is dry. Transplanting young marijuana clones or seedlings is one of the first things novice gardeners need to master. What medium are you using to clone with ? So, Ive never had any issues shown here until about a month ago. Technically it will always be considered a clone, because that's just what it is. After over 10 days in the clone dome, misting twice a day, they start the "harding off" process for a couple of days. I generally run 2.5 sqft for a 24 inch sativa dom. I'm a freak about babying my clones before they get promoted to open air. They are all short indicas btw, 2 fire og, 1 banana og, 1 kandy kush. When the garden, lights, or pots and soil are ready and available. That gets me 2.5 oz. The soil doesn't look wet at all, so water the clones planter and add plastic wrap over it and it if is able, it'll improve appearance in a few hours. A whole week??? Well, the one looks like it's drooping from a lack of humidity. When you say let it completely dry do you mean event the soil that's an inch or two down? Clones dont exactly change color just from being cut away from the mother plant, but once theyre established, they do tend to brighten up a bit in color. That will do it least you learnt something next time start with 1 - 2 " seedling pot let it grow until you see roots coming out the bottom or sides .. Let soil dry out so root ball and soil stays together.. take out gently and transplant into a pot 2 times as deep and wide as leafs . You are using an out of date browser. When u first take a cut it needs 6 hours of dark. unfortunately i gave them some tea and nutes and they aren't really rebounding like i had hoped. In annuals, if the plant is a bush type, trim back one-third of the plant. They are in a grow tent, and Im using a full spectrum LED that puts out 200w. Make sure you give it a good watering so that all of the soil is moist, and then you might have to give her some water right on top of the cube, as needed until the roots get established in the soil. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. should i wet the inside of the plastic wrap? You are using an out of date browser. How many roots should be showing from the Rockwool cube ? For those who want to achieve a yield from a bunch of plants that are all identical, cloning is the ideal way to preserve those genetics. Cloning Weed: A Beginner's Guide to Cloning A Cannabis Plant. JavaScript is disabled. The roots are absolutely imperative for your marijuana plant to . Today they are looking so good. It only helps with some plants but, as this will not harm the plant, it is worth a try. It's not uncommon nor a big deal. Spider Mites Gone Wild! Why didn't you water straight after transplanting like everyone said to with your others? Next time, an anti-transpirant spray will greatly reduce wilting-- they form a waxy barrier that keeps water inside the cutting. With fox farm i typically dont feed during veg until 1 week before flower. All Content Copyright 1993-2023 420 Magazine All Rights Reserved. What are your Temps and humidity?that's a pretty big pot for those little guys.are you planning on growing them out or flipping them since u did your final transplant? should i poke a hole or two in the wrap so it doesn't suffocate the plant? Also- any quick advice on space? Any advice welcomed! Second day cut a hole in the top of the baggie. After transplanting into coco the general time frame between transplant and droop/wilt/crisp is 3 days. 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After transplant to 1 gal, start 5ml per gal cal mag alternating with recharge with waterings. Lots of time for outdoor grow, lots more leaf will take it's place then remove when they get yellow. Please Welcome New 420 Sponsor MJ Wholesale. It makes the plant stop focusing energy on photosynthesis and refocus on rooting. 1. THey are still and always will be clones. Top Your Plant and Clone the Growing Tip Too! Wet a 6 inch circle in your container first. I'm running a vivosun 315 cmh with 2 100w LEDs, AC infinity 4 in vent system. does this happen to anyone else? Seedlings Dying! If they are "too firmly" seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake. yesterday i took two cuts from the same plant. Put a plastic baggie over the plants for a few days after transplant. You are using an out of date browser. The humidity hopefully will help keep the clone from wilting. Are these things accurate at soil pH? The pots are 5 inches across at the top and filled with about 4 out 6 inches to the top with soil. You're currently browsing the forum as a guest. Step 1: analyse symptoms. This happens because new growth occurs that is so minor, its nearly invisible to the naked eye, but a slightly new and more vibrant shade of green is a really good indication that your marijuana plant is well established and that its very likely ready for the big move. I have a 100 percent rooting success rate. 2012 GG7's Indoor/Outdoor Grows! I personally never use domes and I don't get wilting. try NO SHOCK (plant supplement by Advance nutrients)when you transplant. I had 2 pop upside-down because I buried the seed wrong but that's it. 06-07-2021, 05:59 AM. JavaScript is disabled. You can trim off the half of the fan leaves to reduce area or take smaller cuttings. So, im at a loss. Good luck, Transplanting is pure bro science in my humble opinion. Are you using nutes? Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. I like to give a bit of Voodoo Juice when transplanting to help make new roots. Alrighty then lol,i was going by the Wilted clone.Thanks for the heads up just trying to help a fellow grower.It can be frustrating with some strains,and my Blueberry clones sooo easy,but the AK47 doesnt. Agreed. Whether you see new tiny leaves or the development of other possible growth or production such an increase in crystals or height, then this is a really good indicator that your clones are strong and healthy, and could probably tolerate a move to a more permanent residence. JavaScript is disabled. Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. Trim back the plant Trimming back the plant allows the plant to focus on regrowing its roots. looks thoroghly dehydrated man, how many days since you last watered? The leaves are still green snd soft though, No you didn't come off as a dick at all, I'm the dunce for not realising this was the same plant..lol. The humidity in the dome is high idk what it is exactly but its high and yes my room humidity is way lower we keep our room warmer around 78f we used soil starter plugs as a medium we are using organic potting soil with worm castings also we dug up about a hundred worms put them in the soil bags after washing them off. The solution is a boost to the plant's . It may not display this or other websites correctly. They will more than likely come around in soil without a dome if they have decent roots and the soil is wet. Ive always had 100% success rate once my clones achieve nice large roots and planted in coco now all of my clones are dying off and checking the roots, they look fine and the only thing Ive been able to track is that my humidity in the room is now tracking from 45%-51% and sometimes dipping below 45%. I had it sitting outside for a few hours in the sun today. Find more gardening information on Gardening Know How: Keep up to date with all that's happening in and around the garden. Clones dont take very long to transform into a nice and stable little marijuana plant, but if you try to transplant them too soon, there will be sudden disruption to the root system that is trying so hard to grow and establish itself. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Meet expert cultivators sharing grow journals, tutorials and pictures in our gallery, while helping others answer frequently asked questions. 50% is usually a little too low for most varieties out of a dome. They are going into shock from the low humidity. Don't know what the issue is! I would use either CFL or T5 for cloning, if you can't use a aero-type cloner then you should have a humidity dome over these or be foliar feeding them. It turns red at 3, and all the plants were at about that level. Get some plastic wrap over the planter to hold in moisture. Starting a seed in a jiffy is no different than Starting it in the final container. because this is a thread for my Banana Kush hahah. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ok does anyone not think of the obvious that you have to cut leaves in half in order get the plants to root or else they will just try to continue to vegthis just looks like a poor cloning jobcould b wrong, oops some are cutne ways the containers that the clones are in look kinda bigits always easier to clone in smaller in order to get big root ball. I remove the plant from the coco to check the roots and theyre 100% white and fat: no browning or discoloration, rot or thinning. JavaScript is disabled. To transplant weed clones: Put soil in your pots first. Life finds a way my friend I can get more pH'd water at the hydo store but they don't open til tomorrow morning so i guess a half cup will have to do for now. 2023 Gardening Know How, Future US LLC, Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. Or simply at the 1st site of new growth on clones placed directly into growing media (ie soil, coco, perilite, etc) is what I was speaking of. by HypnoticJUD | Aug 3, 2021 | Grower Questions | 5 comments. In perennials, trim back about one-third of the plant. how about first aid? Temps are around 76F and RH @ 60-70%. 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